WWLBPS?
Of course, the answer is easy. To paraphrase a cereal commercial. "silly girl, Scouts are for boys". Hey, I am just guessing, he was from a different generation, but that is probably the mild version. Let the hate fly. I don't write for popularity, I am no secondhander.
Hopefully those that do read will keep reading to get an explanation for such a bombastic statement.
Of course, the things that Boy Scouts do are not gender/sex specific. I get it. I know. But guess what? Boy Scouts aren't about the things that are done.
The things the Boy Scouts stand for are not gender/sex specific. I know. I get it. But guess what? That isn't why Scouts are for boys. By the way, what are those things?
Duty to God; Duty to Country; Duty to Others; Obedience to the Scout Law; Physical Fitness; Mental Fitness; Moral Fitness.
Those things they do can be fun, in fact, many of them are what attract boys to the program.
Those things they stand for are what attract chartering organizations, both national and local, to support the BSA.
So what's the deal phil. are you just sexist?
Really? you are kidding right?
The issue began before the BSA decided they were going to be "the Scouts" and accept girls into the program. Although, to be honest, girls HAVE been allowed to participate in Venture crews for years, beginning at age 14 (or 13 and having completed 8th grade) since 2010. WHAT?!? Yes, it is true, but they were not allowed to work the traditional Boy Scout program.
So, when?
It began when women began to camp with boys. To be leaders of boys. (feel free to comment below) If you know me, you know better than to think that I have a hangup on women in Scouting. I don't. In fact, I know that women play a crucial role in scouting. Guess who gets a pin with every rank advancement? Mom! Could scouts work without them? No. So, why do I say that this is where the problem began?
First a note. I know that there have been problems with adult leaders and boys in the past. There is no excuse for that. Undoubtedly there are leaders today that are problems as well. There are rules, and BSA has tried to root them out. It is sorrowful that this was hidden in the past. There is no excuse for what has happened. But it is important to note that they are a minority.
Boy Scouting was built for the interaction between boys and positive male role models. This is a problem that any HONEST social scientist will acknowledge in our society. Too many homes have no male role model, let alone a positive one. Boy Scouts provides that. Or provided that.
I shared a video pointing out that boys act differently around girls. Come on, you know it is true. I would argue that having moms, aunts, church, or other women around on camp outs or scout camp also causes boys to act differently. A lot differently.
So, if it was so important for BSA to have this interaction, why did they allow women in?
Because there were insufficient men to get the job done. Because many homes have no fathers in the home, or because fathers are working odd hours, or whatever, there were needs for leadership in the meetings and on outings. These very same women stepped up, and said, "you let us, and we will". And they did. I have great admiration for women serving in scouting. I have defended women camping, even knowing it was not ideal. simply because it was and is necessary.
How does the future look with the Scouts?
Of course, girls are more than capable of doing and earning all of the awards that boys can. But how will it look? Councils are still working that out.
It appears that rules will be in place that girls will be in separate patrols and camp separately from boys. For summer scout camp, not sure how that will look either.
Individual chartering organizations can decide whether to register girls or not. There is no recourse in the courts, as each chartering organization is considered a private group, and even King Kennedy of the Supremes has ruled that you can't make a private group change that.
I am not arguing whether or not girls should be in Boy Scouts. There is no point in it. There were those that argued for too long that women should not camp with boys. I understood their argument, and even agreed with it, from a certain point of view, but it didn't matter, it was time to accept it and move on. So that is what we do now. Once we see how the change is rolled out, and that is that. Will the national chartering organizations remain in BSA as this continues? Only time will tell.
But again,
WWLBPS? Lord Baden Powell formed the Scouts in England because new recruits were showing up to his army unfit to be soldiers, and he developed the program to prepare boys to be men. So, unless you want your girls to be the best men they can be...
Hopefully those that do read will keep reading to get an explanation for such a bombastic statement.
Of course, the things that Boy Scouts do are not gender/sex specific. I get it. I know. But guess what? Boy Scouts aren't about the things that are done.
The things the Boy Scouts stand for are not gender/sex specific. I know. I get it. But guess what? That isn't why Scouts are for boys. By the way, what are those things?
Duty to God; Duty to Country; Duty to Others; Obedience to the Scout Law; Physical Fitness; Mental Fitness; Moral Fitness.
Those things they do can be fun, in fact, many of them are what attract boys to the program.
Those things they stand for are what attract chartering organizations, both national and local, to support the BSA.
So what's the deal phil. are you just sexist?
Really? you are kidding right?
The issue began before the BSA decided they were going to be "the Scouts" and accept girls into the program. Although, to be honest, girls HAVE been allowed to participate in Venture crews for years, beginning at age 14 (or 13 and having completed 8th grade) since 2010. WHAT?!? Yes, it is true, but they were not allowed to work the traditional Boy Scout program.
So, when?
It began when women began to camp with boys. To be leaders of boys. (feel free to comment below) If you know me, you know better than to think that I have a hangup on women in Scouting. I don't. In fact, I know that women play a crucial role in scouting. Guess who gets a pin with every rank advancement? Mom! Could scouts work without them? No. So, why do I say that this is where the problem began?
First a note. I know that there have been problems with adult leaders and boys in the past. There is no excuse for that. Undoubtedly there are leaders today that are problems as well. There are rules, and BSA has tried to root them out. It is sorrowful that this was hidden in the past. There is no excuse for what has happened. But it is important to note that they are a minority.
Boy Scouting was built for the interaction between boys and positive male role models. This is a problem that any HONEST social scientist will acknowledge in our society. Too many homes have no male role model, let alone a positive one. Boy Scouts provides that. Or provided that.
I shared a video pointing out that boys act differently around girls. Come on, you know it is true. I would argue that having moms, aunts, church, or other women around on camp outs or scout camp also causes boys to act differently. A lot differently.
So, if it was so important for BSA to have this interaction, why did they allow women in?
Because there were insufficient men to get the job done. Because many homes have no fathers in the home, or because fathers are working odd hours, or whatever, there were needs for leadership in the meetings and on outings. These very same women stepped up, and said, "you let us, and we will". And they did. I have great admiration for women serving in scouting. I have defended women camping, even knowing it was not ideal. simply because it was and is necessary.
How does the future look with the Scouts?
Of course, girls are more than capable of doing and earning all of the awards that boys can. But how will it look? Councils are still working that out.
It appears that rules will be in place that girls will be in separate patrols and camp separately from boys. For summer scout camp, not sure how that will look either.
Individual chartering organizations can decide whether to register girls or not. There is no recourse in the courts, as each chartering organization is considered a private group, and even King Kennedy of the Supremes has ruled that you can't make a private group change that.
I am not arguing whether or not girls should be in Boy Scouts. There is no point in it. There were those that argued for too long that women should not camp with boys. I understood their argument, and even agreed with it, from a certain point of view, but it didn't matter, it was time to accept it and move on. So that is what we do now. Once we see how the change is rolled out, and that is that. Will the national chartering organizations remain in BSA as this continues? Only time will tell.
But again,
WWLBPS? Lord Baden Powell formed the Scouts in England because new recruits were showing up to his army unfit to be soldiers, and he developed the program to prepare boys to be men. So, unless you want your girls to be the best men they can be...
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